Curse

Tosha · Mar 27, 2008, 09:41 AM // 09:41

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

sorry azzer your analogy is a /fail

Same for me. Although we both do not have a car, and we both do not have very wealthy parents, I am the one who still has money left at the end of the month >.< (and NO, that is not because he buys me too expensive stuff :P). Also not married yet, but we have been together for 7 years now, so I see that happening in the future

I love him because he understands me like no one else, because he is patient with my flaws and loves me even when I am in a bad mood (which is often >.<)

Splitisoda · Mar 27, 2008, 10:27 AM // 10:27

I am personally, not even sure on this. In my school, we pretty much are divided by the "cool" kids and the "not so cool" kids. I sit with my friends, were not "cool" to others, and pretty much everyone at the cool kid table has a girl friend 24/7

Never really even wanted to go out with a girl

I'm a solo type me thinks.

quickmonty · Mar 27, 2008, 10:37 AM // 10:37

In the words of Mae West:

A good man is hard to find.
A hard man is good to find.

Yang Whirlwind · Mar 27, 2008, 02:16 PM // 14:16

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Originally Posted by Johnny_Chang

until i get a gorgeous girl, that article has no merit

I'm with Chang on this one!

Blackhearted · Mar 27, 2008, 02:32 PM // 14:32

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Originally Posted by azzer20

then again plain men has more money = more women, it's all about the money, and women don't say otherwise, when is the last time you dated a guy with no money ?

Actually i'd kind of agree with this. Take the last girl i knew for instance. Despite all she claimed about how she cared about me and wanted me and crap... Who'd she eventually throw me aside for? Someone who was only better than me in the wallet.

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Originally Posted by Brianna

Don't really know. It is kind of stereotyping in a way I guess.. but to some extent you're sort of right, whatever It may be, I can't really disagree that much - But in the end everyone is an individual, so I guess it can be taken with a grain of salt.

I believe everyone has a heart and the ability to love, lots or little, but some people just take others for granted.

But honestly finding a good person out there is a pretty hard thing to do, someone you can really put your trust into, and love with everything that you have.. I find trust being hard, and without trust, there's really not much to follow sadly.

And I don't have a paranoia of trusting people, I just find it genuinely hard to do, cause there is times when you know things are very right, and when something just doesn't seem to fit.

I'll agree on the very hard find someone truly good and to trust people bit, and i'm a guy. Most people only take advantage of and abuse the said "trust". And this can go for both sides of the genders.

X Salvation X · Mar 27, 2008, 02:55 PM // 14:55

i'd say its pretty accurate for the most part

i dont consider myself exactly as a swim suit calender model at all, but my ex says she didnt care about my looks, just loved my personality and thats all she wanted. and she is by far the most beautiful girl ive seen. to this day i question how the hell i was able to get with her.

Inde · Mar 27, 2008, 04:03 PM // 16:03

Oh what they hey, I'll comment.

I think, in regards to the money aspect... it depends on WHY they have no money.

Money isn't really a driving force for me either but it's a necessity. If the reason the guy has no money is because he's too lazy to actually work for it, too lazy to find a job, no ambition, happy with being a low-wage employee simply because any type of responsibility interfers with his partying/laziness/sports/etc. Then you're right, money is everything to a woman in that regard. If he's poor simply because he's working his way through school, volunteering for a good cause, or is ambitious and discplined enough to be doing something grand like writing a book, starting a business venture then it's different and money really does not matter. There's a lot to be said for following your life dreams and goals.

Being attracted to your mate is kind of a requirement. Some might argue but I really doubt the point of the article was to say that beautiful girls with ugly guys work. There's some level of attraction that is going on regardless and whether that emphasis is on money, looks, power, wittiness, etc.

azzer20 · Mar 27, 2008, 04:35 PM // 16:35

well ofcourse there are exceptions, i wasn't being black/white on things, pretty girls want pretty boys, untill people get around 23-25 years, then everything other than looks matters.

and Blackheartet i'm sorry to hear that, thouh you can't really generalize poeple, i know that, i was just kinda saying, a woman (not all i know!!) that meets a richer man will sometimes throw you away for a man with money.

again i do not generalize, i know there is difference, with age comes the ability to look past looks, then they take you for your personality.

quickmonty · Mar 27, 2008, 04:48 PM // 16:48

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Originally Posted by Inde

Being attracted to your mate is kind of a requirement. Some might argue but I really doubt the point of the article was to say that beautiful girls with ugly guys work. There's some level of attraction that is going on regardless and whether that emphasis is on money, looks, power, wittiness, etc.

I agree, Inde. I've been in this world long enough, and have dated enough women to say that physical appearance and money don't really matter that much (although I wouldn't date someone that looks like Clara the cow). There is a certain level of attraction between people that transcends such things.

AscalonWarrior · Mar 27, 2008, 05:17 PM // 17:17

Gorgeus girls are happier with plain guys?

Does that mean that I have a chance?

Surena · Mar 27, 2008, 07:14 PM // 19:14

A man doesn't need to look good. Being self-confident (above all) and masculine is what attracts women more than good looks.

Dawn Angelheart · Mar 27, 2008, 07:19 PM // 19:19

heres Something Everyone Can think About. Im Pretty sure Most People Have Watched, Know About THe Tv Show Scrubs. In which One Of The Ep's The Super model Looking Girl.. was in Hospital.. And They Asked Her Why Was She (The super Modle Looking Girl) With A.. Well. Fat Ugly Guy With Glasses.

And She Said. because Shes Been with Good Looking Guys. And Rich Guys. But the Fat Ugly Guy(forgive Me i dont know his name..so hes the "fat ugly Guy" :P) He had been The One To Make Her Laugh, To Be There For Her All The Time.. And She could Trust.

Im aware Its Just a Tv Show But.. It Can Happen.
I Used This eXample As to Avoid My Personal Example btw.. so :P

EroChrono · Mar 27, 2008, 08:01 PM // 20:01

Of course, the plain guys get the gorgeous girls not by getting all turned on "OMG I can date a hot chick" but by not commented on her looks at all, and just say "You're cool to hang out with" or "I like how you're so energetic" and don't act don't act any diffirent around the hot gorgeous girl then you'd do around 'normal' girls

nebuchanezzar · Mar 27, 2008, 08:50 PM // 20:50

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Originally Posted by Surena

A man doesn't need to look good. Being self-confident (above all) and masculine is what attracts women more than good looks.

The difference is in self-confidence vs being cocky or arrogant. In general men are more visually stimulated while women are more inclined to be stimulated by the thoughts of things.
Look at how sex is marketed(effectively I might add) toward the sexes. For men it tends to lean more towards straight forward pornography(visual) whereas for women it tends to lean more toward "romantic/sexual situations" than the act of sex itself.
Coming back to the self-confidence part, women(yes again generalizing) deep down almost all have some feelings of insecurity, whether valid or not, that affects their confidence(not always noticably). Most self-confident people can easily compliment their partners and help alleviate(without even knowing it often) this feeling. Hence the comment of a comedian(bad quote not 100% accurate...shoot me)
"I know he's not the best looking man but, he treats me like a lady."
Lots of over-generalizing here. Guilty. None of it is 100% in every man/woman but generalizations exist in most cases because....generally....they are existent...to some degree.

Blackhearted · Mar 27, 2008, 09:07 PM // 21:07

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Originally Posted by Dawn Angelheart

heres Something Everyone Can think About. Im Pretty sure Most People Have Watched, Know About THe Tv Show Scrubs. In which One Of The Ep's The Super model Looking Girl.. was in Hospital.. And They Asked Her Why Was She (The super Modle Looking Girl) With A.. Well. Fat Ugly Guy With Glasses.

And She Said. because Shes Been with Good Looking Guys. And Rich Guys. But the Fat Ugly Guy(forgive Me i dont know his name..so hes the "fat ugly Guy" :P) He had been The One To Make Her Laugh, To Be There For Her All The Time.. And She could Trust.

Im aware Its Just a Tv Show But.. It Can Happen.
I Used This eXample As to Avoid My Personal Example btw.. so :P

Anything can happen on a script though. That's how things die all the time and come back to life in a week on every one of those stupid soap operas yet not in real life. I believe that can happen when it happens to me and not some scripted guy, tbh.

Apoc · Mar 28, 2008, 12:27 AM // 00:27

I'll sound cliché, but inner beauty is what counts. :P

Witchblade · Mar 28, 2008, 01:34 AM // 01:34

I dont believe in all this either.

Just remember that attractive women know they are, why would they be interested in "random guy who's nice" when they can afford to "choose" ?

I also agree with Azzer, there are more important things than looks when you come to a certain age, i just think it's prolly more than 23-25 nowadays.

What scares me though, is those people believing that it's just like in movies and tv shows, i aint pointing at any reply in here, it's just that i know some guys like that...

@Apoc: one might say: weird it's always the people that aint really good looking who use this.
(No offense huh, again, not pointing at someone

)

Joe Fierce · Mar 28, 2008, 03:09 AM // 03:09

Well, i'm going to have to say that i'm friggin ugly by traditional standards, but i've never been with an ugly chick, all have them are and were pretty hot or upper average and what alot of my friends would get pissed at me for as defining as out of my league, and in the end i'm going to have to disagree with a majority of the posters, in the end it's not about money, looks, it's about personality and brass balls, asking a girl out is the hardest thing for a majority of people but whats the worst thing that can occur? she'll say no? oh no!!!! just ask is my advice, unless you fear risking a friendship that you find more important than taking it further than that whats the worst that can happen? i mean honestly, and personality is a big plus, being able to make a girl laugh without being arrogant or incredibly racist or gross is just about the best thing you can do, if you can make a girl laugh then she's comfortable with you, which drops alot of the major guards, other than that, just have a good personality, most chicks aren't looking for what you're thinking their looking for, their not looking for a alpha male, and if they were why would you want to be with a superficial biotcha like that anyway?

personality, balls, good sense of humor, and some skills behind closed doors that shouldn't be discussed on a forum which the younger crowd participates in for fear of polluting their mind. these are the things that get the girl and keep her.

-joe_fierce

Brianna · Mar 28, 2008, 05:28 AM // 05:28

Well, Joe, a lot of people's confidence is destroyed if they're rejected, I mean everyone works differently.

Though generally I think with that ''Bite the Bullet'' mentality and I usually do things other people won't do. Some people are just too hesitant and pre-meditate too much or something.

But yeah basically everyone works different, and it's good if you have that much confidence and aren't put down by small things. If you are happy with yourself (Hey, you are you, can't change that) and you're comfy about it, then a lot of stress is cleared out.

Also personality is key, a person is always unattractive to me if they have a bad personality, I mean looks can't make up for that, ever, even if they don't have super hot looks, still.

Also one more thing I can say is pressuring is bad..mkay! It makes (Me, at least) uncomfortable and pushes me away pretty fast, especially if they hit on me right off the bat, that just pisses me off usually.

Most of my relationships have just sort of slipped into it naturally.. no one asked eachother, it just happened that way over time, cause things went right.

But yeah that's basically just how I feel about it, you know what is really fun? When someone can be relaxed and just totally have fun and be themselves around you, it makes everything so easy. The type of people who are super shy, to the point of not talking sometimes, and really self-conscious kind of make things harder.

Joe Fierce · Mar 28, 2008, 05:59 AM // 05:59

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Originally Posted by Brianna

The type of people who are super shy, to the point of not talking sometimes, and really self-conscious kind of make things harder.

omfg, my thoughts exactly, chicks do that more frequent it seems (but i've seen some shy dudes trying to get at chicks and it's kinda sad), and it's like, jesus, cmon, say something, i dont friggin bite....hard.